Saturday, 7 November 2009

Should Muslims wear a poppy?

While travelling around London over the past week what struck me was the number of predominately white middle aged men who wear poppy's compared with virtually no ethnic minorities. It got me thinking why ethnic minorities and in particular Muslims appear reluctant to wear a poppy. My own view is that the significance of wearing a poppy has been diluted for a number of complex and not always inter related reasons.

London Muslim believes the Blair legacy of transforming our armed forces into a mercenary outfit for the Americans where they have been ultimately responsible for the death and slaughter of thousands of innocent Muslim civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan cannot be underestimated. In the minds of many, our boys are no longer only associated with the defeat of Nazi tyranny or Galtieri's conscripts in the Falklands. In the case of Afghanistan the British Army is fighting and dying for a Karzai regime whose leaders are mostly on the CIA payroll, carry out fraudulent elections, have increased the supply of opium largely through Karzai's brother who is one of the world's biggest drug barons and have allowed rampant corruption. Not worth the blood of British soldiers.

The blurring of the role of our armed forces who now help to prop up corrupt CIA regimes in Afghanistan has led many to associate a poppy with support for these latest disastrous military adventures. Lets be clear when British soldiers are killed by Afghans fighting to liberate their country from foreign occupation why should we be surprised. What do we expect Afghans to do, sit in their villages or farms and wait to be bombed by American drones. Although we never learn from history Afghans will kill British soldiers as surely as we would kill Afghans if they militarily occupied Britain.

In addition, the role the Commonwealth played from the West Indies to India has also been downplayed to the extent that one can often recall the role Australians and Kiwi's played but until recently the non white commonwealth contribution has been relegated to an afterthought. The interesting reaction when the non white commonwealth contribution is highlighted is to emphasise the importance of all those who fought the Nazis, which while correct is slightly disingenuous because that has not been happening until recently.

Should Muslims wear a poppy? In my opinion no. Lets respect what our gallant heroes did in both world wars but lets not allow sentimental rituals to inculcate a collective amnesia where we remember but never learn. Surely if remembrance is to mean anything it should mean never again. Remembrance and poppy wearing has still allowed wars with Muslims dying in their thousands along with British soldiers. I will grieve for both but not with a poppy.

13 comments:

  1. I feel no pride for the UK armies. Let them rot.

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  2. Very good blog London Muslim...

    Londonpatriot.org.uk

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  3. My objection to poppies is the people who are outraged at anyone who doesn't wear a poppy - like the office charity drive that someone else has decided you have to take part in.

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  4. Very good article!

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  5. There's a white poppy you could wear; which is against all wars (I think?). I remember seeing it in Kings Cross during my studies.

    Might get one :)

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  6. You should wear one to honor those who died giving you the right to choose!

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  7. Surely wearing a poppy as a British Muslim would help to emphasise the fact that many non white people did die in the fight against Nazi tyranny? If you don't wear a poppy because many people associate World War Two with British of white Commonwealth soldiers, then you are merely adding to this collective amnesia, not reminding people of the diversity of faith, ethnicity and colour who fought against Germany and Japan.

    Also, I hope you were wearing a poppy in 1999 when British troops fought against the Christian Serbs in order to protest the Kosova Muslims. You say you do not wear a poppy partly because of the wars Britain has fought/is fighting against Muslims; when Britain is fighting a war to protect Muslim rights, you should rush to the RBL and donate if your argument holds any water.

    Interesting blog post nevertheless.

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  8. "what struck me was the number of predominately white middle aged men who wear poppy's compared with virtually no ethnic minorities"
    That might be because they were showing respect for the sacrifice and bravery of their ancestors- what is wrong with that?
    If ethnic minority individuals choose not to honour the similar sacrifice of their ancestors ancestors that their problem.
    Don't whinge about others downplaying the brave role of your ancestors in the World Wars- you lot are the worst offenders!

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  9. Its not a white poppy you should wear its a white feather If you are not proud of this country and the freedom it affords you to spout shite won by the way with the blood of British men and women in two world wars and various conflicts around the world then do us all a favour you treacherous scum and leave something else you are free to do unlike some of the shitholes you originated from thats why your still here and the dole of course and knowing you are free to talk crap and get away with it whereas if you did it in some of your homelands you would dissappear

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  10. At first read I thought, no you're wrong. But then having read that comment from 18-04 I say go ahead and not wear one. People died for the freedom to say and do exactly what you want, whether we agree or not (and I don't but that's my choice and I shouldn't expect you to do as I do). That is freedom, not the xenophobic bile spouted by the previous commentor!

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  11. Devoutly observant Muslims take a somewhat different view from London Muslim:

    http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=337828

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  12. Lets wear the poppy to remind everyone of the sacrifices made for the freedom we enjoy in Britain and many other countries today.

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  13. Wearing a poppy is a means to remembering the sacrifices made by so many to allow us a free society today. It is not 'pro-war' as some people claim, but it is a reminder of the perils of war and why we need to try to avoid it.

    If you do not choose to wear a poppy, that is your personal choice that you are entitled to. But, whether you have a poppy on your jacket or not, I would like to think that we all remember the great losses and sacrifices made by people of all races and of all religions.

    LM, it is sad that 70 years on you feel the need to take something as simple as wearing a poppy to attempt to create divisions in our society through race and religion. After all, that is exactly what the people we remember were fighting against.

    Maybe you should wear a poppy LM, as it might help you remember that people are willing to give up their lives so that we can live in a society in which all races, religions and nationalities are seen as equals.

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