Muslims in the western world have enough on our plate without a scholar managing to put his foot in it by outrageously appearing to justify rape within marriage.
LM accepts I'm no scholar but we live in a non Muslim country where Sharia does not apply so ultimately the laws of this land are decided by Parliament. As a result living in the UK if some drink sodden Muslim Muppet of a husband forces himself on his wife without her permission that is rape in the eyes of English law and all Muslims should acknowledge and accept that including this scholar who does himself, our faith and Muslims in general no favours.
This scholar then disgracefully appears to claim Muslim women lie about allegations of rape along with advising them not to inform the Police in the first instance. I wonder if the scholar were to get a slap from his presumably long suffering Mrs would he avoid informing the Police of an assault.
Muslim husbands can be abusive so lets not live in denial.
JALAN - JALAN
13 hours ago
acts of parliament are not law. They are statutory legal systems, that only have jurisdiction with consent.
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"acts of Parliament are not law" Are you serious anon?
ReplyDeleteActs of Parliament create or amend existing statutes aka as laws.
Try referencing an authoratative source like Parliament, Erskine May and brush up on your crown perogatives, implications of Factortame case and EU on Parliamentary soverignity etc rather than with respect cutting and pasting from a forum who intellectually appear to just outgrown their nappies.
Alternatively if you get a moment have a read of some Denning judgements although I suggest a strong coffee to get you through his entire judgements
thats right, there is law (common law) and legality defined by the language legaleese. if you go to the blacks law dictonary of said language, you will see quite clearly the definition of statue law "is defined as defined a a legislated rule of society given the force of law.
ReplyDeleteand society is defined as a number of people joined by mutual consent to deliberate, determine, and act for a common purpose
NOTE MUTAL CONSENT.
yes most people are not aware of the huge difference between law and legal
You will also find that Britain has a constitution much to peoples ignorance. it is the magna carta and the bill of rights and a few other documents. and the magna carta has been ratified consistantly, even by todays Queen.
and within the magna cartar are lawful provisons to regneded your sovereignty to the queen.
So not only are you able to opt out of statutory law (acts, by laws, and statue - which constitue most of todays laws) but also opt out of being beholdent to the queen
so not citizenship and no subject of the queen.
Prove it otherwise, or ditch your law degree because this is the important stuff they didn't teach you.
but it is not suprising as most legal proffesions are unable to think outside the box, they are just wrote taught legaleese.
'Scholars' like this are a big problem for Muslims. It would be good if they made a greater effort to think before they spoke.
ReplyDeletep.s. I'd change "Muslim husbands can be abusive" because that implies to me that 'Muslims are allowed to be abusive'. I'd put "Sadly, there are many cases of Muslim husbands being abusive".
p.s the blacks directory of law is an authorative source of law as you can get. Parliment does not define what statutory law, legaleese does. And the defintion is in blacks directory of law.
ReplyDeleteI understand that it may just be one of those, oh my god moments for you, but this is to be expected as most people do no have a clue that there is a difference between law and lawful and statutory law and legal
So Mr "blacks" lawyer your prefer to discuss the semantics of our laws, rather than discuss the larger question of men raping their wives within marriage.
ReplyDeleteI assume by you not commenting on the subject, i.e. the rape of muslim women within marrige, you feel it's ok to rape the women, as you are only commenting on the law, not the vile act itself.
Rape is an act of degradation and abuse.I know a woman who was routinely raped by her abusive husband as punishment.
ReplyDeleteThey are divorced now, thank God - but men can lay no claim to authority when speaking about what women go through at the hands of bad men, and what women have to suffer at the hands of bad men.
This scholar is disgusting, vile and ignorant.
no you are right, if a wife refuses her husband his marital rights, he has no right to force himself on her, but he has every right to divorce her. Because the act of marriage implies consent (except under certain circumstances), and the missus regnades on her consent, so the marriage contract is broken
ReplyDelete^ So what happens if the woman wants sex but can't have it, because the husband doesn't want to, she has the right to divorce as well? As the man isn't fullfilling the marriage contract.
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