The EDL Nazis appear to be planning another riot this time in Blackburn on April 2 where Muslims, Police and anyone else who gets in their way will probably be attacked like on virtually every other occasion when they march.
While Israel's supporters in the EDL carry out their usual mayhem and violence leading to a huge Police operation with all the associated costs for traders, LM wonders what Blackburn's large Pakistani Muslim population will be doing to protect their own community from Nazi scum.
LM as my regular readers know has relatively little time for northern British Pakistani Muslims who stay silent over sexual abuse but show their priorities by getting ticked off over a beauty contest involving Shanna Bukhari born in Blackburn.
Frankly, Blackburn Pakistani Muslims along with Lancashire Pakistani Muslims more generally should be utterly ashamed that the EDL have the balls to go into an area which has a massive Pakistani population and show complete contempt for who they will be facing. Here in London we have shown how to defend a Muslim community particularly in Harrow with Muslims, Non Muslims and our brothers and Sisters from the UAF so my message to Blackburn and Lancashire Muslims is organise and prepare to defend your community within the law.
Ah, so Mr Muslim you advocate that people should be restricted in where they can go, sort of like a ghetto, so it's a no go area for christians in a muslim community and vice versa? Do you think there should be no freedom of movement, much like the ghettos the nazis set up?
ReplyDeleteWhy don't the muslims stay indoors and be peaceful? There's an idea, show us what law abiding and quiet people you are, and you could stop stirring up religious hatred on your site.
I'm sure if the muslims stayed away the EDL would have no excuse to kick off, or damage property, presumably the police are quite capable of dealing with demonstrations. Or don't you believe in law and order, with the police in control, not a bunch of muslims?
I would agree the EDL are being very provocative, but aren't muslims when they demonstrate at forces homecomings or burning poppies? And as a minority and most muslims being on benefits, wouldn't it be an idea to keep a lower profile?
Hhhhmmm I suppose they daren't go to Leicester?
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I see your link the BBC where the police are warning of violence. But I do not see any links to experience of EDL violence.
ReplyDeleteOf course freedom of speech is important. But the advocay of violence is not to be permitted.
These rules should be applied equally to the EDL and their Muslim opponents. Say what you think, say it loud, but do not hit anybody or encourage anyone else to violence.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me...
>> Hhhhmmm I suppose they daren't go to Leicester?
ReplyDeleteIf you'd actually read he article you link to, you'd realise that they've already marched in Leicester, in October 2010.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=1&article_id=126346#axzz1HTLQbA8W
ReplyDeleteReports are that Terry Jones has burnt a Koran.
Will this give Islam a further opportunity to demonstrate it's propensities for peace and restraint?
EDL sucks, MDL cheers...........
ReplyDeleteDidn't hitler and his nazi party have the same political bloodline as starlin and communism, just as the weak swp do today.
ReplyDeleteAnd as the uaf are the foot soldiers for the swp doesn't that make the uaf have more in common with the nazi's than the EDL. I think you will also find that the only people that seem to riot when they get their nickers in a twist is the uaf, look at the student riots.
Just imagine 2000 drunken/drugged Muslim men marching into a majority white area demanding no more places of Christian worship be built or expanded,chanting against God and Jesus,mini skirts and pork pies,what would the local reaction be?How is objecting to this kind of behaviour creating no go areas?
ReplyDeleteThe EDL are making whole city centres no go areas for shoppers,hitting local business and resources and ultimately tax payers who end up paying for policing, cleanups and repairs.
The EDL make city/town centres no go areas for brown skinned people,as they may be attacked or abused for being Muslim,or being seen as Muslim.
Several times the EDL have broken police lines and surged towards residential areas looking to terrorise the local community.The local communities have shown enormous restraint in the face of extreme provocation and abuse from drunken EDL thugs.
Community leaders have kept the majority of youth away from town/city centres when the EDL have been there,in order to defuse the situation and further damage confronation would cause.
So basically its the EDL who are looking for confrontation,whereas the Muslims are shunning them and preferring to stay at home.Of course there will always be a few hotheads,but the majority of muslims choose to stay away and protect their communities and own back yard.
There are countless examples of EDL violence available on Youtube and on the internet,mostly against police and property,however their ultimate aims are pogroms against Muslims and anyone percieved to be Muslim hence the attack on a Sikh temple in Leicester.
As for the the poppy burners and soldier hecklers numbering no more than 40,how can these idiots speak for all Muslims?They dont and cant and you know it,but you use them as
a means to justify your hatred and bigotry which was always there under the surface.
The fact is the EDL thrives off these idiots,as do the extremists off the EDL.
Both sides are infiltrated and manipulated by the powers that be,of course so that they can continue their quest for resources and profit from arms and war,encouraging anti Muslim sentiment,as the majority of said wars are in Muslim majority countries.
By behaving as the do the real danger is that the EDL could drive gullible disaffected muslims toward the extremists,simply by saying look at what these people are doing and saying about you and your people and faith.
Counterproductive to say the least,but I guess your hate blinds you to this as does your blame culture whinging attitude,as shown by your constant scapegoating of Muslims,influenced by a cowed and corrupt media,and of course your ignorance and bigotry and small mindedness.
That bloke in Carlisle who burnt a copy of the Koran had better only get a £50.00 fine, as with the poppy burner, or I think we should have an international "Everyone Burn the Qu'ran Day" to go along with "Everyone Draw Muhammad Day". In my opinion, having read the book in complete and utter horror several times, I think every copy should be burnt anyway: one could hardly write a better manual of hatred if one tried. Comparisons with Mein Kampf are not at all far-fetched. Of course, most Muslims haven;t read it, but it's probably just as well, given that they react to everything with threats of violence oe actual violence already.
ReplyDeleteThe EDL have got the balls because the state is protecting and encouraging them for reasons I mentioned in my earlier post.
ReplyDeleteThe EDL seek confrontation and riot then step back and let the right leaning media takeover,then say"look we told you so",look what happened in Bradford,Oldham,Burnley and Blackburn that summer,sure it wasnt the actual EDL,but similar elements which make up the EDL,nazis and far right football hooligans kicking it off.
LM you do northern Muslims a great disservice when you wrongly imply we wont fight the fascists,we have before and still continue to do so today,in a more restrained yet determined manner.
The tactic of staying local and protecting the community if need be is in my opinion better than falling into the trap of violent confrontation where someone will be definitely be killed,from either side or both.
Thats what they want to escalate the situation and inflame further anti muslim sentiment causing backlashes and more violence.
Of course there is the arguement that not to confront them enboldens them,however I would argue they are not allowed to march,or march through majority muslim areas as yet,even though their presence is distrubing to say the least.
If they step into these areas then fire must be met with fire as met the Blackshirts in the 30s and the NF in the 70s and early 80s.These fascists come in waves and we are in the middle of one right now and will ride it like we always do.
People from all backgrounds will always want fight these nazis,because we all know what their objectives are and what they are capable of.
As for you being critical of northern Pakistanis you have some valid points,however I beg to differ on this one.
I was in Bradford that fateful summer and witnessed things I never want to see again,and neither does the local community as a whole.
When the sentances were being doled out and young kids,1st time offenders were getting slammed for 8 and 10 years for chucking a few stones at riot police it makes you wonder what would happen nowadays in the present climate.
Remember LM the EDL and the average punter does not recognise a northern Pakistanti or southern one,or arab or kurd,we are all Pakis to them,dont forget that.Ever.
What happened to the Jews in europe could happen anywhere,after all they were more intergated than us and certainly less visable than we are yet they still suffered a horrible fate for the fact that they were the scapegoated minority.
Who can forget the terror of the Balkans,pure evil the vast majority of which was committed by modern Serb fascism,,on the doorstep of europe in front of the watching world and the UN,who allowed it happen on their watch.
Ethnic cleansing in full effect,something the EDL and its shadowy backers would love to see in modern day England,whether this last so called bastion of fair play and decency can resist it again remains to be seen.
In the meanwhile lets not make it easy for them,let them make fools of themselves as they do every drunken Saturday as they fight with the police and each other.Most decent people know what the EDL are and give them a wide birth thankfully this will continue.
If that fails,god help this country.
I'm more reminded of the million ethnic french colonists that were given the boot from algeria when that country achieved independence. As colonists, muslims have come to the UK and Europe under false pretense, masquerading as immigrants, as such the native population is within their rights to show them the door. If I were muslim I would either get my families asses out before the natives explode or convert to another religion because nobody has a problem with Sikhs, Hindus,Buddhist, Jains, Taoists, ...you name it.
ReplyDelete"Both sides are infiltrated and manipulated by the powers that be,of course so that they can continue their quest for resources and profit from arms and war,encouraging anti Muslim sentiment,as the majority of said wars are in Muslim majority countries."
ReplyDeleteI do agree we should not get involved in wars in muslim countries, I would let them continue killing each other as they are on opposite sides of the religion.
I believe the reason for Iraq was the so called WMD a blatent lie, but Saddam was killing 100s of thousands of muslims, and the Taliban were killing 100s of thousands of muslims in Afganistan. And now the west and Nato are trying to stop two different groups of muslims killing each other in Libya.
So I agree the west shouldn't go into or interfere in any way in a muslim country, you're excellent at fighting and killing each other yourselves.
Why would you show an israeli flag on an EDL article? You do you or your community no favours LM. You complain about whipping up violence and scapegoating communities yet even the EDL - english nationalists - are the fault of Israel and the Jews.
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Actually unblievable
And as for this comment earlier...
"By behaving as the do the real danger is that the EDL could drive gullible disaffected muslims toward the extremists,simply by saying look at what these people are doing and saying about you and your people and faith".
Never seen a better example of why religion is the scourge of the earth. How could anyone be "driven" to blow up a bus full of innocent people because some one they don't know said something bad about their "faith"?
religious people - all of them - are dangerously mental
The French ruled Algeria,it was a war of independence,muslims dont rule this country or imprison or torture the natives,so you are clutching at straws again,poor example.
ReplyDeleteMost EDL and other racists cant tell the difference between sikhs,hindus or buddhists and muslims.
U.N.B.E.L.I.E.V.A.B.L.E,im sorry but thats the reality, this is what the extremists could say in order to recruit.I agree it is mental to use religion to justify acts of violence and terrorism.
If you look at sadique khans suicide video he states his reason for his evil actions were political not spiritual and driven by foreign policy/wars not because someone drew a cartoon or burnt a Koran or criticised Islam or Muslims.If you are referring to buses blown up in Isreal that is political too,not justifiable in any way as Islam teaches that civilians must not be harmed in war or conflict,as does the Geneva convention.
You are also correct when you state that religious people are mental,but only the extremists,and this isnt just exclusive to Islam.
As for the star of david at EDL demos ,I still cant figure who is using who,however cracks are starting to show,especially in light of EDL cooperation with the terrorist Jewish Task Force(JTF),which has forced a flurry of backtracking by the EDL,as well as the Jewish rabbi linked to the EDL,who spoke at several demos,who was exposed as supporting the death penalty for gays.
Now thats unbelievable and shows such double standards and hypocracy on behalf of the EDL,not forgeting one of their top boys is a convicted peadophile and one of their members was convicted of people smuggling into the UK.
The EDL use the Jewish flag for many reasons and is very prominent at all their demos,so it is highly likely any pictures of the EDL will reflect this fact.
Lastly EDL links to the BNP,in Barnsley town centre the EDL mobilised to defend a BNP stall from anti fascist protesters recently.I think that tells its own story.Muslims today,the rest later.
A saying I once read somewhere "patriotism is when love of your own people comes first,nationalism;when hate for people other than your own comes first.."
Muslim albanians successfully colonized Kossovo without,till recently, ruling it. Prior the area had for centuries been Serbian land. As they had valiantly fought off muslim turkish imperialists. The forms of colonialism are neither singular or static, what we are witnessing in Britain and Europe are simply another form. Their is no clutching at straws just a recognition of what's happening, without a self-serving(muslim)agenda or engaging a shallow(non-muslim) perspective. That is the kind colonialism we see muslims engaged in today. Their fate will be more dire than that of the Frech-algerian colonists.
ReplyDeleteTo your other attempted points, muslims continue daily attacks on the native population, demonstrative in the targeting of non-muslim girls for sexual exploitation by muslims because they are non-muslim. The reality that muslim currently are approx. 2% of the population yet are 10% of the prison population is another demonstration of attacks on Britain. Exploitation of the welfare system by muslim is seen in the numbers of male and female benefit recipients from the muslim "community" Although, politicians don't like to discuss it, a number of public figures have aknowledged the establishment of "no-go" zones by muslims directed against non-muslims, attempts to aquire "rule" over territory. How much money must the govern,ent spend to monitor radicalization among muslims, and you say muslims are not attacking the native population. No straws being clutched at, just those who don't want the truth revealed.
To your final bit of inanity, opposition to islam and an islamic presence in Britain constituting racism. A voluntary belief system does not constitute a race, belonging to a voluntary belief system does not constitute a race, opposition to a voluntary belief system does not constitute racism. If you cannot distinguish between a belief system and genetics you are not just a fuckwit, you probably have another agenda and are using the racism charge to deflect criticism and investigation away from the belief system and it's believers.
Hopefully the EDL will not be quite as violent as the anti-cuts protestors on 26th March were.
ReplyDelete"I'm more reminded of the million ethnic french colonists that were given the boot from algeria when that country achieved independence. As colonists, muslims have come to the UK and Europe under false pretense, masquerading as immigrants"
ReplyDelete- Er no, the Muslims citizens were allowed in & often encouraged perfectly LEGALLY according to the democratic represntative institutions of the land. In contrast, the French colonists went there ILLEGALLY & supported by the army of the French state/Empire. As for the conspiracy theory jabber, talk about paranoia!
"Muslim albanians successfully colonized Kossovo without,till recently, ruling it. Prior the area had for centuries been Serbian land. As they had valiantly fought off muslim turkish imperialists"
- Utter tripe. The Illyrians/Albanians are among the oldest of European communities & predate the Slavic invasions by a vast timescale. Even at the beginning of the early C20th, Albania was vivisected & occupied by imperialist Slavs.
Strange though that these Islamophobes frame outlandish revisionist conspiracy theories on a topic about the perfectly legally settled British Muslim community, sickos.
The revisionist with odd take on history, desperate for a islam favorable reading is the person above, Demographic data from previous censuses and governing records clearly indicate a Serbian majority presence in the area for centuries, a record reflected in area architecture and place names. The French colonists were there legally as the area was under French rule, and lets not forget why the french and Italians were in north africa in the first place. To stop the slave raiding of their southern coasts by muslim barbary pirates operating under the sanction of the sharia as seaborn jihadis. As for muslims being legally settled in the UK, if they have come as colonists they are not legal anymore and as our former empire has shown us people have a right to expel colonists. As for you conspiracy theory drivel, the mb have been quite open about their goals, and the ihkwan have their hand in just about every major muslim representative organization in Britain. I've read qtub, al-banna, and maududi, I'll leave conspiresy theories to the UFO people, the crop circle folks and the arab, those who do them the best. I'll stick to facts. I don't care about the mythical "moderate" muslim anymore not after seeing islamic supremacist writings have been available for decades in mosques. This is a serious warning islam in Britain is on the way out, do yourselves a favour and get out of this fraud religion before Britons catch up with you.
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